510 Cartomizers: How to get the most out of them and where to buy.

[KEITH97M3]

Has anyone found that their juice consumption has increased with cartomizers ?
I noticed that since I switched to cartoz, my daily juice consumption has gone up. I don't understand how this could be but it has increased dramatically and this might be due to the fact that I can take longer vapes because it doesn't overheat as fast.

With atomizers and carts, I tend to take 3 second vapes because I am afraid of the atty overheating, but with cartoz, since I feel no heat, I tend to take much longer vapes sometimes over 8 seconds. I do refill often because I don't want to let the filler get dry or even close to dry and I know sometimes excess juice will run out the bottom. What I do is, I reverse blow from the battery end to push liquid back up the fiberglass tube, this seems to waste less liquid.

One trick I have found is, get something flat and thin like a dental scraping tool. When you go to refill, push the upper part of the poly fill away from the edges of the tube toward the center. By doing this you allow the liquid to go straight to the bottom and it makes it much faster to refill and to see how full it is, just make sure you refill on the sides and not directly in the center. When excess liquid leaks, it is usually from the liquid overflowing into the center fiberglass tube, same principle as the tube in your toilet tank kind of like a snorkel. As long as you don't fill directly into the center or overfill, liquid usually does not leak out the bottom. If it does, gently blow from the top and catch the excess with a paper towel, put the cap back on and blow harder from the battery side, wipe threads and bottom and screw back in and vape.

Another tip I have found, once in a while you should overfill your cartomizers to flush out debris. If you see a lot of black dust coming out or extremely dark liquid, you may want to consider tossing them after using them one last time. If I blow into the carto from the top and see a lot of crap coming out the battery end, I know the carto is ready to be tossed. After taking one apart and seeing all the burnt cloth material along with the metallic burner substance all over the inside, I decided that I really didn't want to be vaping this stuff. Once again a reminder, don't let the cartomizer run down to 1/4 filled, refilling often and keeping the carto moist will greatly improve the life span.

I hear some people saying that their cartoz run hot, I myself have not run into this problem and I have tried 3 different types of cartoz.

If you have the hard tipped cartoz, I pry off the hard tips with a small flat head screwdriver. Even if the screwdriver head does not easily fit, the plastic is weak and you can work it in easily. If the edges still have the white plastic stuck on by the glue, I pry that off too but usually leave the excess glue inside. The reason for that is, I replace the hard tips with the soft tips I have saved from other cartoz. The glue is about 1/8th of an inch below the rim of the carto and this helps to prevent the silicone tip from falling too deep into the carto tube. You can also use a drip tip, a dummy tip that comes with your atomizers or if needed, you can use the silicone tube that came with the cartoz and just need to make a hole in it.

With the soft tips, you really don't need to do much. It is so easy to remove the silicone plug and refill as needed. I don't know why companies would even make the stupid hard tips except to make things hard so you can't refill easily and end up purchasing more. Good marketing strategy but they will soon learn that when given a choice, people will just buy the soft silicone plug ones.

Where to buy: If you really put time and effort into researching, you will be able to find good deals on cartomizers. If time is not a factor and if you don't mind hard tips, www.eastmall.net - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd offers a great deal on them but shipping is higher so you need to make a bigger purchase to get the most out of the $15 shipping price. Their current price now is $5 for a pack of 5. If you bought 50 of them, the total price would be 65 dollars making them $1.30 each or $6.50 for a 5 pack. If you bought 100, the total price would be $115 making them $1.15 or 5 for $5.75 and so forth.

Jason of Vaporflow Welcome To VaporFlow | Fine Electronic Cigarettes, Liquid & Accessories. just had a big sale on the soft tipped ones. They were on sale for $5.99 a 5 pack. I got them for $5.39 for a pack of 5 after a 10% coupon code and only $3 for shipping priority. They still only came out to $29.99 for 5 packs of 5 making them like a $1.20 each or $6 a 5 pack. Cheap prices will always get the sales. (hint to other suppliers)

Low resistance 510 Cartomizers are only now beginning to appear, so far only 2 companies are selling them as far as I know, but you can count on many more to jump on the bandwagon soon.

The companies are: Provape and BombDropsVapor are the only 2 I have found but BombsDropsVapor has the lower price of $11 per pack of 5 while Provape costs $12.95. Here is the link to BombDropsVapor cartomizers

Note to remember: $1.95 or 15% is a huge difference and I don't give a shit how great customer service was or is or how nice of a guy the owner is or blah blah blah, I will and anyone in their right mind will always purchase from the lower priced supplier. So tired of suppliers justifying higher costs because of their customer service.

Want this in perspective ? Would anyone buy the exact same $500,000 condo for $575,000 (15% more) just because the Realtor had awesome customer service or was fantastic guy ? Think about it, Fuck no you wouldn't!! Then now you know why I am so tired of hearing the same old justification on why people keep supporting much higher priced suppliers for the exact same product. I keep hearing and reading this nonsense everywhere I look. For a superior product, I would gladly pay extra and would weigh the benefits, but cmon let's be real.

Hope this helps some people and sorry for rant at the end, but suppliers need to get competitive because the economy is not getting any better and most people are not getting any richer, yet some suppliers don't get the message and continue to be greedy.
Make a little less profit per order but get a lot more orders equates to same or more net profit with happier customers.

Aloha, Keith

[Rose]

Another tip I have found, once in a while you should overfill your cartomizers to flush out debris. If you see a lot of black dust coming out or extremely dark liquid, you may want to consider tossing them after using them one last time. If I blow into the carto from the top and see a lot of crap coming out the battery end, I know the carto is ready to be tossed. After taking one apart and seeing all the burnt cloth material along with the metallic burner substance all over the inside, I decided that I really didn't want to be vaping this stuff. Once again a reminder, don't let the cartomizer run down to 1/4 filled, refilling often and keeping the carto moist will greatly improve the life span.

Do you recommend any other methods of cleaning cartomizers other than overfilling with juice? For instance, would espresso machine/steam cleaning process be possible, or would it rip the whole thing apart? Also, how often do you clean you cartos?

[KEITH97M3]

Rose,
you can clean atomizers with the espresso machine trick, but I don't think I would that would be too good on the cartomizers. Reason is, once the cartomizers run a little low or just from constant use, the wire thing inside starts to break down and cleaning them would do no good. Once that coating burns off, the performance of the cartomizer starts to go down. You might try cleaning them if you want but if you get a weeks use out of one, that to me is more than worth the price I paid.

Aloha, Keith

[gman]

The best way to clean the cartomizers is throw them out.

[inquisitorj]

Nilius has a video on how to clean your cartos by boiling them. I have done this and it works well. These are disposable items though and once they start to burn the inside and drop in performance, it is time to toss them and use a new carto.

[Vapoorer]

Great post Keith i totally forgot about this post because of all that mess

Detailed to the fullest will help alot of people

@Rose
cleaning your cartos is not worth it but anyway way you will do much no matter how much you clean it the burnt stuff that is talked about gets stuck in the fibers witch in order to remove the burns black piece would be very hard just toss it but toss a carto when it almost empty so you don waste any juice its not Worth the trouble IMO.. toss them when the are not mking you happy

[KEITH97M3]

Thanks Vapoorer,

The reason the cartoz eventually die is because the filament thing on the wire starts to burn off, that is the black dust you see come out when refilling. Without this coating, you are left with only a bare wire and that alone is not sufficient enough to produce the heat that is needed.

Boiling them will only remove left over flavors if anything, they will not prolong the life of the filament. I guess this is why cartoz are so cheap and are made to be disposable.

Aloha, Keith

[Vapoorer]

Thanks Vapoorer,

The reason the cartoz eventually die is because the filament thing on the wire starts to burn off, that is the black dust you see come out when refilling. Without this coating, you are left with only a bare wire and that alone is not sufficient enough to produce the heat that is needed.

Boiling them will only remove left over flavors if anything, they will not prolong the life of the filament. I guess this is why cartoz are so cheap and are made to be disposable.

Aloha, Keith

yea i remember you telling me something about the black dust i have yet to take it to the that point..

cleaning them just removes the liquid inside there your rights its not worth the time to clean and dry them just toss them ..

[inquisitorj]

Keith and Vapoorer are you are totally correct. I have never "rescued" a burnt carto by boiling it. That only removes the flavor. Maybe I am cheap, but I have found that after a few refills, as long as you haven't burnt them you can get more use out of the carto. Is it worth it? Probably not. It is not hard, but it is time consuming. It is becoming less and less worth it to clean these cartos. Your time may be better spent finding the best deal on cartos and then after refilling them a couple of times, just toss them and get more.

[Vapoorer]

Keith and Vapoorer are you are totally correct. I have never "rescued" a burnt carto by boiling it. That only removes the flavor. Maybe I am cheap, but I have found that after a few refills, as long as you haven't burnt them you can get more use out of the carto. Is it worth it? Probably not. It is not hard, but it is time consuming. It is becoming less and less worth it to clean these cartos. Your time may be better spent finding the best deal on cartos and then after refilling them a couple of times, just toss them and get more.

I have had a 510 cartos last weeks with vapor and flavor and everything else was excellent but when it gets tto the point were its not making me happy i just toss . its just not worth it but refiling them until they are not making you happy thats what i do mabe arounf 20 files or somthing like that it verys from carto to carto but cleaning them IMO its not worth it because its not doing much but removing the flavor thats left in there

Always refile your cartos dont listen to suppliers that say otherwise