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[uzisuicide]

What is the lowest juice in MG that produces a decent throat hit?

Does 18mg liquid have a good taste? I am not asking about the flavor, I simply want to know if the nicotine is overpowering like in 26mg.

[KEITH97M3]

What is the lowest juice in MG that produces a decent throat hit?

Does 18mg liquid have a good taste? I am not asking about the flavor, I simply want to know if the nicotine is overpowering like in 26mg.

Wouldn't throat hit opinions vary from person to person? Throat hit depends on what you are used to and your tolerance. What kind of analogs did you smoke and how much? 26mg is decent to me as far as throat hit (ex 3 pack a day), but I do get a head rush if I vape like a madman for a half hour. I thought you bought some no nicotine PG and mixed it and said it was good? There is an exact formula to cut down your 26mg to 18mg using the no nicotine glycerin you have so you can experiment.
http://www.todmuller.com/ejuice/ejuice.php is an site to figure out how to dilute liquids.

You could also start experimenting with mixing vg and pg, more vapor comes out with vg and is mentally more satisfying when you see all that vapor but lacks throat hit.

[uzisuicide]

I disagree with throat hit varying. unless of course your throat is made of another material than mine... You may enjoy a stronger throat hit than me, as you may be more used to a stronger hit, however, i'm quite sure we are feeling the same thing. I'm wanting to know if 11mg has a throat hit. I have diluted my 26mg liquid to around 17mg and it has a decent hit. Is the flavor stronger since it's made with less nicotine? Obviously, since i diluted my liquid it has less of a taste too.

[KEITH97M3]

What I meant by throat hit can vary from person to person was, people who smoke non filter cigarettes for example, if they had to smoke an ultra light I would see them tearing off the filter because they say its too weak for them. If a person is used to strong throat hits and another is not, if they both smoke the same liquid, isn't the throat hit opinion going to be different for the 2 people ? Its not a matter of enjoy, its a matter of tolerance. My girlfriend can eat a chili pepper and says its not hot at all but when I eat it my mouth burns, eyes tear and head sweats. She can barely feel any heat but quite the opposite for me. My girlfriend smoked marlboro ultra lights before but couldn't stop coughing when she tried 26mg menthol which I can vape all day and night with no problem.

I still believe that throat hit feeling has to vary person to person, then again its just my opinion.

Ps, I just put in an order for 12 different liquids last night, the prices were so low I almost considered it free. Let me know if you want to get some.

[Moustachio]

One thing to consider is what it's base is.

PG by itself produces much, much more throat hit then VG does. PG liquids at 36mg almost made me sick, and felt like I was shotgunning a whole cigarette, 24mg was still pretty hardcore for me, 18mg seemed like a decent place PG wise before I stopped using it.

VG, having much much less throat hit, I am currently using 24mg. Honestly if I could find 36mg in some of the flavors I adore I might try them because 24mg VG throat hit is probably on par with 12-14mg PG, as far as my opinion goes. Some people want that, as Grimm calls it, "reckless" throat hit of a high mg PG liquid.

Needless to say, these are general overviews. There are some 12-18mg VG's that hit like a truck, and some 24mg PG's that are smooth and have almost none... but those are usually exceptions to the rule. Also, to address one of your first questions: 0, 6, 8, 12, 36, 140, 800000.... all the mg of nicotine will have the same flavor more or less because the mix is changed to take into account the nicotine. Usually you can't get certain amounts over certain mg of nic because they simply can't fit it in. But up to about 24mg all of them will have the same amount of flavor.

[uzisuicide]

okay, that answers my question then. Thanks

I would have never guessed that the same amount of flavor goes into low mg liquid, as there is more room for it.

(Ps, I just put in an order for 12 different liquids last night, the prices were so low I almost considered it free. Let me know if you want to get some. )

hmm. sounds good. How cheap ar we talking? The lowest I've found it is $9 per 30ml, and $3.50 per 10ml from heaven-gifts.com. I just ordered 3 bottles. I hope the quality is okay.

[Moustachio]

It's not necessarily the same amount of flavor added, its that the mix ratio makes it so they have the same amount of taste between different mg levels of nic. Most juices are a mix of pure nicotine, pure vg/pg, vg/pg with nic in it, and flavorings. A 16mg juice would simply have less pure nic, more pure vg/pg, and a ratio of flavor so it has the same taste as a 36mg juice (which would have a different ratio of VG/PG to Nicotine to Flavoring). Hope that makes a bit of sense

As far as quality of Chinese juices go (heaven-gifts is a Chinese distributor), it's kind of hit or miss. Their juices are okay, but compared to American Made Custom juices, I really find them to be seriously crap. Some people have good luck with them, or a pallet that agrees with them, but I've only found they irritated my throat, tasted bad, and left weird, chemical/metal after tastes in my mouth. With them being as cheap as they are, it couldn't hurt for you to experiment and try some to see if you like it, but if you find the quality lacking I would highly suggest some of the American Made vendors -- if price is an issue, per ml, Viking Vapor and TastyVapor are both very good, American juice makers.

[Jason-ElectroNicStix.com]

not to mention that when you order from china you run the same risk as we suppliers do.. it can get siezed.. i have had customers have a few orders go through okay then make a descent sized order and it gets siezed and they are out all the money they "thought" they were saving.

Just my 2 cents.

Jason

[uzisuicide]

Wow, viking vapor is affordable. Thanks. So they are an American based company?

Tasty Vapor is extreme cheap, and it seems everything is custom mixed. Nice (bookmarks both)

Everyone seems to think the rath juice is awesome. I may try some waffle soon. Is it worth the extra buck?

[Moustachio]

Yup, Viking Vapor and Tasty Vapor are both American Made, American based juice makers. I would put TV's quality above Viking, but if you can find some combination of flavors from Viking that you enjoy, they're so cheap that they're good to have around. You have to buy 30ml+ from TastyVapor, but some of their combination are amazing. They also end up being cheaper then TV if you buy like a 36mg or higher 30ml bottle, then buy a "Doubler" which is no-nic flavored juice which you "Cut" the other bottle with to lower Nic levels and basically double the size.

As for Rath Juice, well.... if it gives you any indication I've been bothering poor Jason for what seems like 3 weeks to get 30ml bottles in because I'm so hopelessly addicted to Waffle. I doubt it, but I like to think he made the 30ml Waffle option just for me and I immediately took him up on it and have 3x 10ml en-route to me, along with some Blueberry Pancake and Apple Cinnamon . Jason is actually one of the cheapest, if not THE cheapest when it comes to Rath Juice as well. Buy it from him