The Streaming on Vape TV is Terrible, Val Go LIVE PLEASE, ON ElixirTV with Stickam

[Luciano]

Thanks guys for chiming in on behalf of Elixir. We really appreciate it.
Luciano, your repeated attempts to smear the Elixir name is getting old. Yes, we sell K2 to adults who live in states that allow the sale and use of K2. We feel as though an adult has the right to choose whether or not they want to do something. I was not aware that we needed to run that idea by you or anyone else in the vaping community. Are we to assume that you are some sort of community cop now? Who are you to tell ANYONE what should or shouldn't be done? Do you troll and contact every every ecig site or just Elixir? It seems to me that you jump on ANYTHING you can that is Elixir related. Why is this? You must have some deep down hatred....some sort of little bug inside you that won't let you stop thinking about us. You come watch our shows under various offensive names, you study every item on our site, and you take every opportunity you can to bash our name. Elixir has had to defend themselves against YOU on several occasions now. Why?
VapeTV is a joke. Your live stream from vapefest was horrendous at best. You chose to invite a host that ElixirTV put on the map, to do a show for you and it bombed.
And as far as the flame war goes Luciano....we have better things to do over here. Have a nice life and good luck man. And don't forget to tell your friends where they can buy the best quality and cheapest priced K2 on the market. Elixir Liquid

Smear? ELixer does a fine Job at that all on thier own. And Had VapeTV not been mentioned I would not have replied I am NEVER on ur site under any names I would be glad to give u my IP so u can check that. I don't recall Having any of your hosts on our site with the exception of Val and that show hasnt started yet. As Far as VapeStream goes , if you knew anything about streaming you would know that it has nothing to do with VapeTV's Capability as we host our servers with Media Temple. And Yes You keep selling that K2 and after everything the community has done to try and avoid un flattering press you find it justified to sell that harmful garbage. So Get your Facts straight and Understand that all elixer is a a STORE out for itself and You Make that blantantly obvious. Good Day!
Luciano

[violet330]

I usually don't do this but I feel the need to speak up here. First of all, it doesn't take a computer genius to know that the quality of the streaming has absolutely nothing to do with VapeTV. Depending on where the stream is coming from, some have been better than others- so clearly that is of no fault of VapeTV. As far as Elixir TV is concerned, I agree, we are trying to express the appearance of a stand up, respectable community, and with trash talk, porn style pics and all the "boob" crap- who WON'T discredit us?!!! Ignorance is Bliss- but remember, we are all trying to get the naysayers to stand behind us, and beside us. With a poor first impression, that might start with a viewing of ElixirTV, we might lose that chance. So please understand- in the eyes of the non-vaping community, a first impression that includes content from ElixirTV might shed a poor light on all of us- then we all lose. All we can ask is that you clean it up and make our community PROUD! I,for one, will ALWAYS stand behind VapeTV. Thank you, Violet330

[Wormwood]

Whats so bad about incense? Elixir, are your customers inhaling this stuff? If not, whats so bad about it? And why would one try to "imitate" an aroma? Nag champa, now thats an incense i wanna imitate, but its not banned anywhere as far as i know, guess i dont want it that bad. I think ill go with the 25 dollar incense thats banned in Kansas and North Dakota, wait who pays 25 bucks for incense....^hampster wheel is rocking^

Alright so all that stuff aside, did Elixir stream Vapefest? why not? and vapetv streamed it? why the @#$@#%@^@#$^%@#$ didnt I hear about it? Man I feel like I am on an island by myself, I guess i put myself there, maybe for the very reason i was directed to this post. Feel so distant anymore. Wheres the love? Wheres the crew? f@#$@%@%@ it i am through.

[jfully4vaping]

I have personally watched MANY live streamed meet ups on VAPETV and have never had a problem with them before. I understand that there were issues with the streaming at Vapefest but I have a hard time understanding how that could be VAPETV's fault when I have watched so many other events without any issues. That being said, Elixer sells K2? Why? How does that have anything to do vaping? I agree with Luciano and Violet 100% on that. It seems that there is some lobyist or politician looking to make a name for themselves by trying to ban ecigs around every corner. (may sound a bit dramatic, but it sure feals that way) Why would you want to take a chance at shooting not only your foot but the COMMUNITYS foot by assocciating K2 and vaping on the same website? Is that worth making the quick buck from this contraversial substance? My oppinion may not amout to a hill of beans to you Elixer, but I can not support your site any longer. Not that I was there very often, but I have tuned in for MRSMOKE's and dbocca's show from time to time, and I was hoping to start watching Val's. I simply cant support it as long as K2 is sold there. At least I can still catch Val's new show at VAPETV!

[Wormwood]

one last thing, hey elixir, is this an incense burner that you would use?
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...a_and_pipe.jpg

[ElixirLiquid]

Smear? ELixer does a fine Job at that all on thier own. And Had VapeTV not been mentioned I would not have replied I am NEVER on ur site under any names I would be glad to give u my IP so u can check that. I don't recall Having any of your hosts on our site with the exception of Val and that show hasnt started yet. As Far as VapeStream goes , if you knew anything about streaming you would know that it has nothing to do with VapeTV's Capability as we host our servers with Media Temple. And Yes You keep selling that K2 and after everything the community has done to try and avoid un flattering press you find it justified to sell that harmful garbage. So Get your Facts straight and Understand that all elixer is a a STORE out for itself and You Make that blantantly obvious. Good Day!
Luciano

Last I checked.....EVERY dealer is a store!! And if you think they are in it cause its FUN.....you know NOTHING about business.
Now lets think for a second. The FDA and every politician wants to ban ecigs. do you REALLY think ANY of them care what is on our site??? They are not fighting ecigs because of what is on the ecig sites. They are fighting them because of the MILLIONS of dollars that that have been given to them TO FIGHT STUFF LIKE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES!!! Do you think during a senate hearing someone might stand up and say....well ElixirLiquid sells K2 (As do other ecig sites) so lets just ban ecigs? Thats a lame ass excuse. Go police some other industry. Because you and your dog collar wearing friends DO NOT represent me or anyone I know in this industry AND you run nothing around here but your mouth.
K2 is, was, and always will be available on ElixirLiquid. Yes we are a store. We are here to make some sort of profit as SHOCKING as that may sound to a bright guy like yourself. Surely when your out there mowing all those lawns your not doing it for FREE are you? STORE!!!!!

[ElixirLiquid]

one last thing, hey elixir, is this an incense burner that you would use?
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...a_and_pipe.jpg

Wormwood...yes one might use such a burner for this incense. But only if they are an adult who lives in a state that allows the sale and use of it. (Meaning there are 2 or 3 states we can not ship to)

[YuckFou]

smokie, is there a reason u couldnt ask val your question personally? i guess u felt the need to post it on the forum, sounds like a "smear" to me..

on another note, the future of elixer is looking dimmer. the dea has raided several businesses selling k2, even in the "legal" states and big gov is campaigning against it. i say good riddance smoke the real thing and stay away from unproven chemicals of uncertain provenance..

[ElixirLiquid]

i say good riddance smoke the real thing and stay away from unproven chemicals of uncertain provenance..

Smoke the ILLEGAL alternative huh? Smart. And "Unproven chemicals of uncertain provenace" sounds a lot like what people are saying about ecigs....but your more than willing to smoke that huh?
Well, you go break the law....smoke your "Real stuff" and go to jail. Or...turn to a LEGAL alternative that won't make you fail a drug test and stay free another day so you can troll these boards for someone else mentioning Elixir.

[Luciano]

Last I checked.....EVERY dealer is a store!! And if you think they are in it cause its FUN.....you know NOTHING about business.
Now lets think for a second. The FDA and every politician wants to ban ecigs. do you REALLY think ANY of them care what is on our site??? They are not fighting ecigs because of what is on the ecig sites. They are fighting them because of the MILLIONS of dollars that that have been given to them TO FIGHT STUFF LIKE ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES!!! Do you think during a senate hearing someone might stand up and say....well ElixirLiquid sells K2 (As do other ecig sites) so lets just ban ecigs? Thats a lame ass excuse. Go police some other industry. Because you and your dog collar wearing friends DO NOT represent me or anyone I know in this industry AND you run nothing around here but your mouth.
K2 is, was, and always will be available on ElixirLiquid. Yes we are a store. We are here to make some sort of profit as SHOCKING as that may sound to a bright guy like yourself. Surely when your out there mowing all those lawns your not doing it for FREE are you? STORE!!!!!

LoL you are rediculous- no one is saying don't sell to make money, I am saying that you @ Elixer are Posers trying to pass urself off as a community site by broadcasting and calling urselves ElixerTV. when u r nothing more but a store promoting ur goods. Lets see, 1 you have approached ALL of the hosts on VapeTV , ALL OF THEM, 2 - u wont find me drunk stumbling to my own site to tell the hosts "I would love to bend u over and screw u in the ass" thats Class , lol, 3 - Notice why the hosts havent come over there? cause u guys have ZERO clue how to run a site with Class, mean while i see your hosts are starting to migrate , dont be suprised as this will surely become a trend.Mowing lawns would be a step up for you but for me lets see Indie Artist Mp3 Label TeamTunez Records BandLair: Home SiteLair www .... well u get the picture this IS what i DO , u posted and decorated ur site to make it look like the community was supporting you, but had no confirmation from any one, do Grimm and Vaporcast ring a bell? From the get go you guys have tried to scam ur way into this community and You have been called out multiple times cause u got caught , so keep doing what u do, although you wont get any support from VapeTV and our supporters cause they know better. This is the reason you didnt come to Vapefest cause u knew u werent welcome. The spin u try and put on it is pathetic.
Regards,
Luciano