Suppliers be Careful

[markarich159]

Although my formal training is as a Pharmacist, I'm also a partner in a mid-sized credit bureau/collection agency. We represent MOSTLY healthcare providers, but we do represent some small local business's that sell over the internet. The majority of these clients collections matters have to do with internet Credit/Debit Card chargebacks(which are rampant in the industry). As a result I speak with bank processors and internet gateway processors(the biggest being authorize.net) fairly often. I was speaking with the authorize.net fraud rep a few days ago and we got into a side conversation and I happened to mention to her that I am an e-cig user. She started to laugh and insinuated that she knew the issue well(but certainly not in a good way). The next big hurdle for payment issues for e-cig suppliers(the 1st being PayPal) is going to be gateway processors(i.e authorize.net, et al). Apparently e-cig sales are expressly prohibited by authorize.net service agreement. She went onto say that although merchant service providers can "sign up" any merchant they want to use the gateway, ultimately, if the gateway processor finds out that the merchant is prohibited, they will shut down the merchants account. Once shut down it will be difficult, if not impossible, for that same merchant to obtain CC processing services in the future. Once ASH starts a meaningful e-cig smear campaign with the gateway providers(as they did with PayPal) OR an irate customer contacts the gateway processor, the gig, as it were, may be up. Supplier's be careful!!!!

[LoneWolf]

well if its not one thing its another.. lets hope this never happens..

[Brad-JuicyVapor.com]

Soon we are going to have to require customers to send cash wrapped in a blank sheet of paper thru snail mail like in the good old days.

[dizzyizz]

yeah, then so much for quick transactions. You'll have to order your goodies way ahead of time in anticipation of needing them.

[kingofyo1]

western union stil works ya know

[markarich159]

western union stil works ya know

Yeah, healthcabin.net(China) actually does use that option, however, WU provides little protection for the buyer once the money is transferred. Any unscrupulous supplier could use that fact to rip alot of people off. WU was not intended to be a payment processor.

[LoneWolf]

Well lets just hope this never happens.. if it does, its snail mail time.. lol

[Network23]

I would have no problem sending a postal money order and stocking up before I run out considering the cost. I think the biggest problem is going to be the FDA, it really is just a matter of time till they attempt to regulate and ban, especially the "flavors" market is going to be an easy target with flavors like bubblegum.

[ski]

I'll leave the cash wrapped in tinfoil in the hollow stump at the crossroads. My supplier can leave my mason jug full of shine - i mean e-juice - in the same hollow stump. If authorize.net fails suppliers can use ccbill.com for payment processing. They'll process payments for just about anything.

[Snarky]

The biggest problem is that we have become a nation of weakwilled pussies that are scared to stand up for our rights when we see shit that needs to be addressed, we put on blinders because it's not happening to us. Sooner or later they get to everyone, you are seeing it firsthand right now with alll this crap over the E-Cig, the wrong people are making money off of these things and the jackboots in DC can't let that happen.